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The photo is my son and myself. Now days you can get a photo made to look old like this one. This photo was taken when this was the new look.

Harry S Truman was president when I was born and world war II had ended. I grew up in a time when lunch was put in a brown paper bag and a sandwich was wrapped with wax paper. There was no such thing as pantyhose, we wore stockings that attached to the rubbery clippy things that attached to the girdle. Convenience stores were not common and when we took a trip we packed a picnic basket because many places did not have fast food. Highways had places to pull over and stop, some with picnic tables. Read more ....
 

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Mon Jul 07, 25 3:45 PM CST

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J
112 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 4:09 PM CST

My heart aches with the news of the disaster, also.  

I know about the paperwork that comes after a death, and it is very difficult to keep doing it, day after day, so I applaud you both for getting through it!  My parents kept way too much paper that we had to go through, but my grandparents didn't have as much saved, for some reason.  They had a very small house and I'm not sure where they would have stored it, so perhaps necessity drove them to discard paperwork more easily.  My other grandfather (he was widowed for many years) had a desk of papers, but much of that was current paperwork he had for the organizations he was in.  It was not a lot to go through.  

I have had to leave the air conditioning running, as it is very humid and hot, at times dangerously so.  I have continued to hang dry all my laundry, however, and I'm still sticking to simpler meals.  I've been watching Clara's YouTube videos, now that I can access them.   I read or watch an occasional movie for entertainment, especially the old movies. 

We received a refund for our federal taxes and I put it right onto a debt.  I saved out some to purchase requested books for a group of disadvantaged youth my church is assisting.  

My garden is struggling some, but I'm getting some things out of it.  How is yours?


L
26 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 4:38 PM CST

The flooding is so awful that I can hardly comprehend it along with the lives lost.

We had a blessed week.  We have been swapping our homemade bread for vegetables from our neighbors garden.  We needed a new vacuum cleaner so I found a $200 one that has never been used for $30 on Facebook Marketplace . We won a $100 grocery gift card .  All blessings!

Edited Mon Jul 07, 25 4:40 PM by Lana D
M
39 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 5:02 PM CST

I’m cleaning out, yet again, and hauled two carloads off to bless someone else. Also coeanong out all my paperwork and burned it. After my stroke I realized how much I had undone, so I’ve also been using up lots  of craft things — like weaving towels and knitting dishcloths… finishing a quilt … and just generally doing the things that have lingered. Finished feels good!!! 

Edited Mon Jul 07, 25 5:28 PM by Matty H
H
10 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 5:08 PM CST

You both are inspiring me. I've got papers the my little file cabinet is, well, bulging.  I remember I used to have a system and each week would declutter 27 things (papers) until I couldn't declutter anymore. Then it was just upkeep. It felt AMAZING.  Then we moved, and moved again a few years later. I lost my mojo in the last move and am just finding my way back. Thanks for this. Wow that's a lot of bags!

J
1 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 5:11 PM CST

Thank you gDonna, for all your hard work typing these messages over the years and all the helpful information.   Also thank you to everyone who leaves comments every week, especially those who live on my side of the world. It is a double bonus and every day I look to see if anymore have been added.  I don't actually join in or comment because I am in New  Zealand.  Different seasons, bad health and many other reasons, but have never had a dish wash and live simply (I'm now in my mid 70's), but it is so motivating to read what others are doing and this week I have been sorting and discarding our own paperwork so that it is not left for family.  Thank you again everyone.  

T
24 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 5:11 PM CST

Thanks for another wonderful post. 

Paperwork is an issue for me at the moment too. We have a lawncare business we operate from our home and have to keep business records for 7 years for tax purposes. But when you have a small house it's difficult to find room for it all, so it's even more important to only keep that which is necessary! The problem is, I have more than 7 years worth of paperwork and so started going through them a month or so ago. It's a long process, but it's getting done and will be such a relief when it's all gone through. It truly does weigh you down.  

We've been eating our small garden's cucumbers, zucchini and tomatoes which is a treat. It's just been so hot though and the plants are struggling with the heat.  

I'm still organizing and editing our belongings in order to have a more 1930s house, so not living it completely yet. Being in the hospital and having to recover from surgery slowed me down a bit but I'm getting back into the swing of things :) 

I have been collecting some vintage photographs from mostly the 1930s online. I'll share this one with you all in honor of grandma Donna's sewing machines:      California, 1936...

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Meeting of the Mothers' Club in Arvin camp for migrant workers camp in California, opens with prayer...
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Edited Mon Jul 07, 25 5:12 PM by Tandi S
C
36 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 5:21 PM CST

Yes, these natural disasters are too often and too terrible. From wildfires here in the west, to flooding and hurricanes and tornadoes in the rest of the country, we have seen enough of it. I am very bothered too, by the amount of people going through such hard times and losing loved ones, pets, and possessions. People value their homes and things; it is normal and natural to miss them. Of course the most serious are loss of life.  But it is all too much.

Here I have been tending a disappointing garden: no garlic to speak of; not sure about my potato crop this year, and it is usually terrific. So far my pumpkins have not been pollinated. I did have some very lovely sweet strawberries earlier in June, and have some raspberries coming. The lemon and apple trees are doing very well and I had a gorgeous bed of fresh lettuces: mixed cut and come again type, butter lettuce, Romaine, and small head lettuce. So far it has been a rather cool summer with marine air in the mornings, but it is beginning to heat up now. We shall see.

I am working on a quilt that I had been meaning to finish; but actually I had barely started on it. There were about six blocks made toward it, but now I have three and one half rows of it ready to be stitched together. It is a throw quilt and I have had the fabric for it in my stash for several years now. It is a very pretty print of variegated shades of pink and red roses with green and ivory; this is a nine patch pattern and I look forward to seeing it all finished. It did help that I got in there and deeply cleaned out and straightened the sewing room where I work. It really needed it. 

I also bought a new range: the gas range that I had was not lighting correctly. I would turn the oven on and it would take quite a while to get hot; then  I would hear a light rumble. I could also smell a bit of gas, so I was not going to take any chances. This time I got an electric oven with an induction cooktop. There is a bit of a learning curve on timing and settings for the cooktop, but it is not as bad as having to get used to an all electric cooktop. I never could get the hang of those, having always had gas in the kitchen. We got it on sale for the season and there was an extra $500 taken off because someone had had it delivered to their kitchen and it did not fit correctly so returned it the same day. That was a real stroke of luck for us!

S
168 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 5:31 PM CST

Debby B, I forgot to report back on the movie! I enjoyed it very much. It was like a made-for-Grandma Donna's-blog movie with its theme of how chasing after being modern makes you make poor decisions and waste your money. 

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A barn swallow built a nest on our front porch light. Our porch is recessed and out of the weather. Mama Barn Swallow looks so cute sitting on her nest. It's a mud nest instead of the sticks and hay nests we normally see. Some of the neighbors have been very good about knocking down the house swallow nests, and there's a lot fewer of them around. 

I found some more businesses within walking distance to me. I've been thinking about what is free to do and walking or riding a bike fits that. I want to do as many free things as I can. Unfortunately things like cleaning, whether washing dishes or clothes or just cleaning the house, isn't free. I will always have to buy water, heat, and soap for cleaning. But I can do free yard maintenance, grow free food, do some free cooking with the solar generator, and have free transportation with my feet.

Other than trying to find all the free things, I've been working on making all my changes effortless habits, so I've been doing the same things over and over. I haven't had the time I'd thought I've have for my cheap redecorating projects, but I'll get there eventually. 

The spring planted vegetables will all be out of the garden this week, and the potatoes, onions, and garlic into the new wire baskets in the pantry. The summer planted vegetables aren't bearing yet, but when they do, I imagine I'll be doing a lot of canning. The blueberries did really well this year and I put the blueberry jam next to the strawberry, raspberry, and gooseberry jams. 

I'm so glad the paperwork pile is getting smaller! 

J
36 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 6:31 PM CST

You have my congrats on the paperwork.....holy moly that is a lot of bags.......

I have been feeling so bad for those in the flood zones. I cannot even imagine what they are going thru. Its horrible to think about.

I have made strawberry jam and bought some peaches from a markdown rack......I used some for jam and put some in the freezer. I won't have pears until fall, I get them from someone with trees and they don't want to mess with them.

Family get-together for the 4th of July, it is always nice to be with loved ones. We also have a few people that we have "adopted in". 

Still converting and using ways of the 1930's, has become very natural and I am liking it. 

My garden is producing, green beans, cucumbers, onions and I had to remove the spent spinach and replanted that area with more green beans for canning. Thankfully we got some much needed rain yesterday.

Blackberries should be ripening this week or so.

m
52 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 6:42 PM CST

I appreciate the link to your videos.  I will be checking those out.

I come from a family of paper savers and married into a family of paper savers. Anything paper. Anything. 

Looking at what my mother, my husband and my in-laws have accumulated I have to admit I'm motivated to not leave a lot of junk for my children to go through. I do have a lot of stuff (sewing, art supplies, cookbooks & religious books) but most of it is neatly organized so I can use it and I do use it. If I or my children need to eventually dispose of it will be a matter of pulling it off a shelf and putting it in a box. Right now I am getting rid of stuff that adds nothing to my life.  I realized I have 3 cookie jars. I'm not using any of them. I donated 2 of them on Saturday. I kept the one hubs is attached to because it was a gift to him (from someone he doesn't know any more). It will probably never be used as I'm trying to pare down the kitchen & keep things off the counters. But there's space in a closet for it & it makes him happy knowing we still have it.

I've noticed that when I have stacks on counters (like my files or mail) everyone else takes that as permission to pile on their stuff and it leads to chaotic messes pretty quickly. When I keep my stuff put away (or even just toss) any clutter is easy to spot and I can deal with it quickly.  So this has disciplined me to keep my own stuff in order.

Looking at those garbage bags of paperwork makes me shiver. I was never a neat freak until I had to step over or reach past clutter to get something only to knock over the pile or even injure myself because something fell on me. I have tossed out stuff sight unseen.  I accept I can do nothing about other's clutter so I say nothing. I just take joy in the areas I have organized and simplified. 


And honestly at some point it makes sense to ask am I ever going to have the time to use all these candles, read all these books,  cook from all these recipes, file all this paper? 


What really saddens me is that my family members really think this stuff is important and significant.  An incredible amount of time & money & space has been devoted to their stuff. Most of it will get tossed. When my oldest brother died my other brother literally had 2 days to empty his house of anything he might want to save. He had a large car and only kept what he could fit in it (mostly mementoes for family). He had to pay a company to dispose of the rest because this was during the pandemic and thrift stores weren't accepting items much less a whole house of stuff. My deceased brother even had boxes and boxes of things in the garage from his last move he'd never unpacked. My brother had no time to open it.

I know my kids don't want my stuff. When I'm decluttering I don't ask if they want anything.  I've been to their houses! They don't need anything! Lol

S
168 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 7:55 PM CST

I have to admit that I find all these incidents of saving paperwork disturbing. We had a family member whose in-law was a hoarder. This person was even on one of those TV shows about hoarding. Saving unneeded papers is a form of hoarding. It's not about saving papers. It goes deeper than that. I saw the pain this person who hoarded was in and it was very pitiful. I don't think it's kind to people to normalize this behavior and ignore the problems that trouble them. I think it's better to talk about the fact that they are exhibiting signs of distress and ask if they want help with their distress. 

We're all hoarders to some degree because modern life tells us to buy too much. Living like the 1930s gives us an opportunity to live in a way that's healthier for us. 

T
24 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 8:10 PM CST

Claudia O  your quilt  sounds lovely.  Would  you post a picture when done?

T
24 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 8:31 PM CST

Stephanie G, what is the title of the movie you saw? I looked back at the comments from the last post but couldn't find where you mentioned the name.

D
48 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 8:37 PM CST
Stephanie G- 

I'm glad you enjoyed the movie.   It was recommended to me, as well.  By a tightwad friend!  For those wondering, it's called The Dollmaker.  Really excellent movie.  

Donna -  Seeing your bags of stuff to be shredded is deja vu.  Long story short, my best friend has been pleading with her mom for decades to let her clean out her house.  Her mom completely refused and would go into a near fainting spell over it.  Eventually, her health made it necessary as she had to move into assisted living.  My friend finally completed the house.  Her mom had actually dead bolted doors so nobody could see in several bedrooms.  Most everything went to the dump....but the paperwork.  My friend filled her car to the ceiling 3 or 4 times, including the trunk.  They had a virtual mountain like yours in the garage.  One envelope and paper at a time.  Exactly as you experienced.  Ads in the envelopes.  Every single paper they ever touched, it seemed.  Took them months to shred because they burned up one shredder and didn't want to ruin the second.  She said the paperwork went back over 60 years.  Receipts for baby clothes, my friend is 60!   My friend wore the masks and goggles, as well.  She said her long deceased dad's clothes were still in dry cleaners plastic and it literally confetti-ed when she touched it.   She texted me pictures of it all and her progress.  It was truly overwhelming.

S
168 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 8:40 PM CST

Tandi S, it's called The Dollmaker.

A
55 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 9:37 PM CST

When I cleared out my late d-i-l' apartment, I literally filled two commercial dumpsters with bags of paper -- twice.  I wasn't very popular with the other residents who found no place to dump their trash.  I was more careful after that and only partially filled the dumpsters with more papers.  I spent over two months clearing a one-bedroom apartment.

I'm more organized with my paperwork.  On January 1 I close by personal ledgers for the prior year and them up for the new year.  At the same time, I pull all receipts and toss or shred everything not needed for a reason.  When I purchase a new appliance, I staple the receipt to the front cover of the booklet that comes with the appliance.  Or I should say I've always done so but when I purchased my washer it did not come with a booklet rather a code to scan to find it online which was/is useless to me since I don't have a smart phone.  I like to keep utility bills from the previous year so I can compare the current bills when I receive them.  

I have a treadle sewing machine, but the head is worn out and cannot be repaired.  I've considered purchasing a Janome treadle head and having my cabinet remodeled to fit it.  The plus on that is the newer head does zigzag and backstitch.  I've tried for a very long time to find a Singer head with a round bobbin with no luck.  I learned to sew on a Minnesota treadle that had belonged to my great-grandmother.  My g-grandmother was on county old age relief when she died, and they took everything from her house to sell.  G-gram had loaned her machine to my mom, so it wasn't in the house to sell.  Mom "gave" me the machine, but she also gave it to someone else, so I didn't get it.    

T
117 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 9:51 PM CST

That is a lot of paperwork.  I can feel your relief in getting through it all.  

I've still been working on cleaning out some of the outbuildings here on my family's property.  Mostly a lot of scrap metal that just needs to go to the recycling yard.  

Picked the first few green beans today, but that's all my garden has produced so far.

Wild black raspberries are in season here, but unfortunately I fell down a hole while picking, hurt my back, hip, and wrist, and that's slowed me down a little on other projects.  

I too watched The Dollmaker after seeing one of you recommend it a few weeks back.  Parts of it hit a little too close to home for me, but it was a very well done movie.  I had to watch it on my phone though, which wasn't very 1930s.

Keeping it simple in the woods of Michigan.
m
52 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 9:52 PM CST

Stephanie G, it is a form of hoarding. The sentiment expressed to me is either "it's mine" or "I might need it". But I think it's based on fear. Whatever that real fear is has been projected onto paper (and stuff in general a lot of times) as a control/ coping mechanism that can be portrayed as reasonable (papers need to be saved right?) They get very angry at any hint that they don't need to save those papers. (Truth be told they rarely look at it once it rests in a pile.)

If the paperwork is 50- 60-70 years old does it need to be shredded? I doubt many, if any of the accounts or businesses are still around. I've seen various vintage papers for sale at antique shops and I collect old letters for my postmark collection some of which contain bills. None of it is fodder for identity theft. For me the cut off would be 30 years or older for tossing. If the account is still active then I shred.

S
168 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 10:09 PM CST

margaret p, I agree with you completely. When the hoarder in-law did the TV show they had to talk to psychologists as part of the contract for the recompense, and it was brought out that surrounding yourself with junk was a form of trying to protect yourself. It is a manifestation of fear. I can't even imagine trying to live in a home where someone has dumpsters full of paperwork in it, but the hoarders feel they are safe like that! 

P
7 posts
Mon Jul 07, 25 10:32 PM CST

No hoarding here, I shred as the statements/documents/receipts get to a year old, keeping them if the warranty is of course longer than that although warranties are usually only worth the paper they're written on.  Call me cynical but mostly they'll claim that it doesn't cover whatever you're claiming for - and never do we buy extended warranties, a waste of money and time.  We have things down to basics - I may have said before that I asked myself two questions - one, would we keep this if we had to move, and two, if either of our children/grandchildren would be interested in keeping it - if the answer was no to either one, then out it went.  And now I only have basics in this home and we're happy with the less cluttered areas - if we don't use it, we sell, donate or give it to someone who will.  We live next door to a chronic hoarder and that is enough for me, rats, snakes, vermin and everything dumped - ugh.

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